After doing genetic testing it has been revealed that Jatars and their descendants can trace back their roots to a European. This original ancestor was white and this is so for all the descendants belonging to the R-M198 haplogroup. This haplogroup originated in Central Asia, the Indian Subcontinent, Eastern and Northern Europe. The parent haplogroup is R-M198 and the age of this haplogroup is 10,000 years.
(More technical information: The more precise predicted Haplogroup is R-M512. Haplogroup R originated in Central Asia. Most descendants belong to one of two major lineages. They are present at low frequencies across Central Asia, South Asia, and Europe.)
3000 years ago our ancestors were from the Kurgan culture. These people are believed to be the first speakers of the Indo-European language group. Descendants of these people (example, the Jatars) are found in Slavic populations (native to Central Europe, Eastern Europe, Southeastern Europe, Northeastern Europe, North Asia and Central Asia) in Europe, India, and Central and Western Asia.
This is the migratory map of the haplogroups taken from familytreedna.com (Please go to this link if you want to test your DNA):
The Jatars are an offshoot of the R1a haplogroup which is basically East European or Central Asian in origin.
Sure, if we go back far enough we are all from Africa, but the Jatars are the offspring of those who went northwards, settled in Central Asia or Eastern Europe or thereabouts and then travelled down into India a few thousand years ago.
The presence of this particular haplogroup (R1a) is found more commonly in the YDNA (passed on through the male line) of Indians, and therefore it is believed that these people did not enter India as a migratory group but were invaders. They have a mention in the Rig Veda which was written thousands of years ago and are called “Aryans” if you believe that theory. There is no evidence of these people being in India beyond the last few thousand years and possibly have been present in India only for about 1000 years.
If we go beyond that, it is clear is that they lived on the Indo-Gangetic plains about 15,000 years ago, and were Indo-Scynthians. A significant number of people from the western side of the Indian sub-continent, ie Sindhis, Gujaratis and Punjabis also share this haplogroup (R1a). This haplogroup is more common amongst the Brahmins of India, even found to some extent amongst South Indian Brahmins, but it is not found in Deshastha Brahmins who were here long before them.
This is an old photograph taken at the time of Sushilatai Nanal’s (Bapurao’s daughter) wedding sometime around 1936, and that was 84 years ago! I think it’s an amazing photograph because it has someone from almost every branch of Shriram Jatar’s family. Me and my father, Sudhir Jatar, sat down to identify these people and it was great fun! I hope you have as much fun as we did when we saw the cute baby faces of those whom we knew only as elderly people.
Each one of the people in this photo has a life story which I hope to be able to put on this website one of these days. I have some, but far too few!
KIDS: 1st Row from the bottom, sitting on the ground, from LtoR: Sharad Jatar, son of Appasaheb and grandson of Bapurao, (with Chandu on his lap); Jairam(Bhaiyya) Jatar (son of Bhausaheb); Yashwant Inamdar (son of Banutai and Annasaheb); Balkrishna Jatar, son of Abasaheb; Usha Thakarnée Jatar, daughter of Bhausaheb; Padma Dani née Thakur, Kamalatai Thakur’s daughter and Bapurao’s grand-daughter; Sheila Bhagvat née Jatar, Bhausaheb’s daughter; Saral Thakkarnée Jatar, Abasaheb’s daughter; Sudha Dhawale née Jatar, Appasaheb’s daughter; Sadashiv (Balu) Jatar, Bhausaheb’s son, Ashok Bhajekar (Indira Bhajekar’s son; Arvind (Baba) Jatar (Bhausaheb’s son).
2nd Row sitting LtoR: Kamlatai Thakur née Jatar (Bapurao’s daughter) with daughter Malti Kher née Thakur in her lap; Satyabhama Jatar (née Khandekar, Abasaheb’s second wife); Aavdabai Bhupatkar née Jatar (Bapurao’s sister and Shriram Jatar’s daughter); Kashinath Jatar (Bapurao); Bal Borgaonkar; Sushilatai Nanal née Jatar (Bapurao’s daughter); Appasaheb Nanal, Uma Jatar née Bhoptakar (Bapurao’s wife); Vimalabai (Jiji) Jatar née Dixit (Bhausaheb’s second wife); Radha Jatar née Leela Shevde (Appasaheb’s second wife); Malti Jatar née Phadnis (Babukaka’s wife and Bapurao’s daughter-in-law).
The following write-up has been contributed by Shrikrishna (Bal) Inamdar. He is the son of Sarojini Inamdar née Jatar (Banutai), who was the daughter of Kashinath Jatar (Bapurao), who was the eldest son of Shriram Jatar. He is also the son of Narhar Inamdar (Annasaheb), who was the son of Shriram Jatar’s daughter, Godutai. Godutai married Laxman Inamdar (popularly known as Babasaheb).
Respected Bapurao Jatar had a liking for his sister’s son Narhar for his academic inclinations. Annasaheb, in turn, adored Bapurao and regarded him as his role model.
Annasaheb had a brilliant academic career. He was M.A. First Class First in Sanskrit. At a young age, he had vowed not to serve the British Empire, but start his own institution for the public good. Bapurao encouraged him and Annasaheb started New High School in Amravati. Dadasaheb Khaparde, an eminent social worker and a big landlord in Amravati, was of immense help.
When I visited Amravati in 2017, after nearly sixty years, I visited the school also. The then Head Master was thrilled to know who I am. We got to talking and the peon brought one old Board on which names of all headmasters from inception were written. I was overwhelmed to see that the first name was of Annasaheb and the year was 1924. It means Annasaheb was only 25 years old then. (Born on 6th July 1899). I used to be excited to read the nameplate on our door, N.L. Inamdar, M.A., B.T., T.D. (London) – almost half the alphabets!
Annasaheb married Bapurao’s daughter Banutai in 1927. Banutai was also good in studies and had a liking for music and literature. She also had a flair for writing. She had later translated the book, ‘Kashmir Princess) in Marathi, which was published in the prestigious “Kirloskar” magazine in parts for over a year. I wish she had completed graduation. Her horizon would have widened.
Annasaheb worked on a meagre salary all his life without Provident Fund, Pension or other retirement benefits. After all, it was his own school!
But the brunt had to be borne by Banutai, as she came from an affluent family. It must be said to her credit that she managed the household very efficiently in the limited sources available. She never let us feel that we were poor (when in fact, we were poor). She maintained our middle-class dignity with poise. She never asked Bapurao or anybody else for financial help. Appasaheb Jatar, her elder brother, and his family was, however, a great emotional support to her.
They had three children: Yeshwant left for England for naval training when he was hardly 20 years old. Sulabha (fondly Tai) was also good at studies and had a keen interest in Music & Dramatics. Banutai encouraged her to obtain a Sangeet Visharad degree. She also participated in plays and other cultural programmes staged at the time of Annual Social gathering in S.P. College, Pune. I remember one play vividly in which Sulabha acted. It was Acharya Atre’s “Bhramaacha Bhopala”.
I had written two lines on each member of the Jatar family with whom I had interacted personally. It was titled Jatar Kul Swabhav Darshan – attributes of Jatar family members. Banutai liked it very much but also scolded me as she felt some comments may sound offensive to some. But then she herself said, ‘No, retain this as it is. I know you have no intentions to offend anyone. On the contrary, you thought of writing about them because you have respect and affection for them’. She was a woman of substance. I still possess that piece which is dated 19th January 1963 i.e., I wasn’t even 18 years old – a juvenile offender, you may say.
Annasaheb was appointed Chairman of the Sanskrit Commission by the Government of India with headquarters at Bhandarkar Research Institute at Pune. He inculcated an interest in the Sanskrit language in me. He was disappointed when I missed the Jagannath Shankarsheth scholarship by just two marks. But I told him that I have scored the second highest and got the Beedkar prize, which may have placated him somewhat.
He had submitted a report to the Govt. of India on why Sanskrit should be made compulsory in schools. He explained how neither the language nor its grammar was not as difficult as it is made out to be. He insisted that it is a language of knowledge (Dnyan Bhaasha) and subhasheets in that language were an invaluable treasure. He believed that it can become the language of the masses, even if not used daily in ordinary conversation.
He was also actively associated with Maharashtra Rashtrabhasha Sabha where Dasukaka Bhupatkar was a member of the managing committee in 1957-58. Annasaheb had great admiration for Dasukaka for his writings in chaste Hindi and his contribution to preparing of school textbooks.
The family house, “Shriram” at 388, Narayan Peth, Pune, was sold to Maharashtra Rashtrabhasha Sabha.
My parents did not leave any property or money for their children. But they gave us an invaluable wealth of good Sanskars, which lasts much longer than any material wealth.
I still cherish them!!!
A family photo of Bapurao’s sister’s (Godutai’s) children and spouses with Banutai (centre). The wives are sitting directly in front of their spouses, except for Chottitai who is sitting in front of her brother Nanasaheb:
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I am lucky to be alive. Credit goes to my parents. After I was born, there was an infection to my left hip which needed treatment by penicillin. The antibiotic was apparently not available in India, but as luck would have it, my father, Dr A. K. Talwalkar was in Liverpool, England, doing MCh (considered as the highest master’s degree in Surgical Science, the Master Chirurgiae is an extremely advanced and selective postgraduate/doctoral degree after Master of Surgery that equips an individual with a technical understanding of complex surgical procedures) and my mother Leela was brave enough to take my brothers and me to England by boat in 1946. I got the antibiotic and excellent orthopaedic treatment. This left a somewhat shortened leg but left me basically intact. This defect was eventually fixed in 2009 by hip replacement in the US. Continue reading “Shrirang Arvind Talwalkar”→
Today I am writing about a star in the history of the Jatar family which shone brightly, in fact, dazzled, and streaked across the firmament much too soon.
Chandrabhaga, popularly known as Chani, was born in 1907, as the third daughter of Bapurao, i.e. KS Jatar, who was the eldest son of Shriram Bhikaji Jatar. (link to his family tree). Chani was younger than Kamalatai Thakur and Anasuya Garde, whereas she was older than her sister Banutai Inamdar and Sushilatai Nanal.
The profile information below and the photograph has been provided by Jaideep.
I am the 3rd son, Jaideep, settled with my family in Toronto, Canada, since 2004. I completed my BSc in Physics from Ferguson College and MBA from Symbiosis Institute of Business Management, Pune. I continued in the nomadic traditions of the Jatar family, living and working in 5 countries – India, Oman, UAE, Qatar and Canada.
The profile information below and the photograph has been provided by Sanket.
I am Sanket, the middle son of the trio raised by the two brave parents.
Having been too young to imbibe the travails of those days, I can claim that amongst many wonderful things, I inherited our father’s deviated jaw! Aside from that my only bravery comes in fighting with marketing directors as I wade through my professional life as a marketing communications exponent.
It is Memorial Day Weekend in the USA, so this memoir is timely in remembering my late father, Wg. Cdr. Madhukar (Mickey) Shantaram Jatar, VrC, VM. This is also a salute to all the members of the Jatar and extended family who have served illustriously in the Indian Armed Forces over the past decades.
My father was the second of four sons born to Dr Shantaram Kashinath Jatar (Babu Kaka) and Mrs Malatibai Jatar. I don’t recall much of his childhood except that he graduated from Nutan Marathi Vidayala in Pune and played competitive cricket as a pace bowler.
I, Capt. Sanjai Madhukar Jatar, am the eldest son of Mickey and Savita (Siv) Jatar. I have two younger brothers, Sanket and Jaideep Jatar.
I finished schooling in Delhi and graduated from T.S.Rajendra (ex Dufferin) and joined the Merchant Navy in 1980. I married Sangeeta (née Pradhan) in 1991, and we moved to the US in 1996, to pursue other opportunities. I completed my executive MBA from Texas A&M University while working in the Marine Offshore Oil & Gas Industry in Houston.
I married Sangeeta Pradhan, in May 1991. We have two daughters, Saakshi and Simran Jatar. Sangeeta is the daughter of Anil and Pratibha Pradhan and the great-granddaughter of Sir Govindrao Pradhan of Thana.